GTR Bodykit, Japspeed Exhaust, Drift Sump, Dump Valve, Turbo Timer, Tinted Windows. When you get a new clutch, the pads are at full width and the biting point is lower. by Casanova » Wed 30th Aug 2006, 01:53pm . A hydraulic clutch is a self-adjusting clutch. Some say that a low point is bad, others high. Good morning I bought a 63 plate Peugeot 208 1.2 from Evans Halshaw at the start of June. I've been having the same problem when I'm looking at cars around here, mine has a clutch stop and bite toward the very bottom of the travel, all the other ones bite higher in comparison. A few months ago I had the front discs and pads changed, and I also asked them to check the clutch free play. My new one only has about an inch of travel left after it bites, the clutch is not riding and it works fine. As a simple explanation, if you imagine the clutch as two circular plates, one of the plates is connected to … Took it for a test drive tonight and all the gears select fine, but the bite point is uncomfortably high, I barely need to move the pedal to shift gears. If in doubt, take it into a Toyota dealer and get … Just done this and what a difference it makes to VTEC gear changes. SIGN UP FOR YOUR FREE ACCOUNT TODAY! TBH, the biting point on my Aygo has the highest biting point of any car I've driven, but I soon got used to it. Zigzagsky, Mar 10, 2014 #1. Venky, Yes buddy, you're correct, you can adjust where the pedal engages the clutch. Mine's a CTS1.8 by the way. I had a new racing clutch fitted a few months ago as the old oem one started slipping at high revs, but now the biting point is right at the end of the lever...I know there hydraulic clutches with no adjustment? Clutch bite point is lowish but pretty much as it was with the bypass. Sometimes, though, I think it’s just luck of the draw with how the installation of the most recent clutch went. The clutch on my mini has its bite point buried deep in the carpet. I did some research when I first noticed this and it seems that Aygos/C1s/107s of that generation are infamous for having high, vague biting points, so I wasn't worried initially. When he said you can't change gears in vtec I should went asked to speak to a proper mechanic. I have recently realised that the clutch biting point is extremely high on it. given that it only has 40 miles it would seem unlikely to be a war issue and more likely either an simple adjustment issue or that is how car is designed. the way i've been told to test if a clutch is on its way is to drive at 30mph, in fourth gear, and put the throttle to the floor. If the pedal is in line with the rest then to much adjustment will lower or rise the pedal and make it uncomfortable. I had my local Hyundai dealer fit a new clutch to the V6 I had and they set the biting point much lower than it was. Good how to! The clutch is made up three main parts - the clutch plate, pressure plate and flywheel. My only worry is that the clutch biting point is near the floor, causing regular stalling. Suzuki Club SG is the official club for all current & previous owners of Suzuki cars in Singapore. :stoptech: Grooved Discs, :ferodo: DS2500 Front Pads, OEM Spec Rear Disc and rear pads, :toda: catback, :toda: delete kit, :wavetrac: LSD, :honda::neo: Quick Shifter, I think this would explain why mine has been ok, recently a decent main dealer redone my master cylinder, so looks like they may have adjusted it as well, good how to though and has it sorted your problem. This is less likely to be an issue -- but doesn't hurt. The material contained in the forums is submitted by the general public and is NOT endorsed by Toyota (GB) PLC or the Toyota Owners' Club. Posted 4 years ago as for the clutch. Hi folks, The biting point in my 1998 Passat 1.8T is really high. Just done mine, worked a treat thanks for that and to think when I bought the car I was a bit concerned about the bitting point so much I took it back to the place I got it from Leeds motor company and asked them about it being so low and could be adjusted. The club is not part of Toyota nor affiliated with or endorsed by Toyota in any way. 2. Hey mate, thank for this - makes perfect sense. Im thinking either the rod is bent or something else is holding it in place. civinfo.com is not in any way affiliated with Honda Motor Company. Sometimes, though, I think it’s just luck of the draw with how the installation of the most recent clutch went. That’s the biting point! Any tips or ideas guys would be appreciated. The clutch biting point is a technique of clutch control to provide driver with greater control of the car, often necessary to make hill starts. My KIA soul clutch biteing point is about 10 mm from floor. If you have tiny … Gradually release the clutch and you will feel the motorcycle moving while the engine noise decreases. any ideas? Mine is almost at the end of the stroke, meaning it doesn't really engage until the lever is almost all the way back out. Its a 1990 carb Cooper. Verto clutch adjustment. To adjust the rod, wedge the clutch pedal down with a … Clutch BITING POINT MEANING. My newish 2008 1.5dci has a very high biting point on the clutch. If this improves shifting at high rpm, defo trying this tomorrow. The biting point was essentially where other cars are set to. The bolt on the back of the pedal box adjusts how far down the pedal will go. 1 full revolution for me was enough to raise the biting point from the floor to roughly 1/3 - 1/2 way up the pedal travel. Then adjust the cable at the handlebar to give a few mm or 1/4" free play before the clutch begins to engage. Twist push rod in shown direction with long nose pliers to raise biting point from the floor. Page created in 0.373 seconds with 25 queries. With the old damper it had reached the point with the pedal buried it was dragging bad enough to have to slam it into reverse to mesh and almost impossible to engage a forward gear stationary. Nearly all manuals will state; adjust the pushrod (if adjustable) clearance first or ensure the quadrant is in the correct position. Is it possible to adjust this? My clutch biting point was getting very low again, I bled the system with a Mityvac, no change. I've read many things on the interweb about clutch failure/wear. Posted 18th Jul 2017. Repeat this movement a few times, alternating between pulling the motorcycle with your feet and actuating the clutch in short movements. Measure the clearance again and readjust if necessary. The engagement point for my E46 xi is somewhere in the middle and am so used to it. I had the same problem. My car has been written off:scream1:[smilie=mad.gif]. It can be adjusted by shifting the piston forward or backwards from the clutch lever. Clutch Biting Point The issue of the clutch biting point seems to be a recurring issue in these posts and having just had to replace clutch and flywheel due to alleged "driver habits" with as yet no support from Mini and at a cost of € 1400, I am wondering to what extent the clutch action is contributing to early failure of clutch. I've always struggled with the clutch on this car, as the biting point has always been very high and vague. So be careful about over-doing this adjustment with your aftermarket clutch. Biting point was so high my heel couldn’t be on the floor when releasing the clutch. A forum community dedicated to all Honda Civic owners and enthusiasts. Just tried to do this now. Yet more say that the auto-adjustment … Citroen c1 clutch bite point. Loosen 12mm locking nut then release clutch. I had a new racing clutch fitted a few months ago as the old oem one started slipping at high revs, but now the biting point is right at the end of the lever...I know there hydraulic clutches with no adjustment? I guess this can only be done when a new clutch is fitted As a clutch wear, it takes longer for the plates to come together which means your biting point gets higher. Cant adjust, but you can try changing to lower clutch set to lower the biting point.. But adjusting that rod won't change where the biting point is. Was this always like this ,or do you have experience with this car having the bite point higher up . Hi folks, The biting point in my 1998 Passat 1.8T is really high. Re: Clutch biting point adjustment? Any solutions? The engagement point for my 99 M3 is all the way in the bottom almost where the "dead zone" for most cars I've driven is.. I have only just found this ,so can i physically adjust backwards too bring the clutch bite point inwards (if you know what i mean) or is the only adjustment on the large knurled knob.if anyone can advise thanks.After 21k miles i dont think the clutch is shot although i am not the first owner. If you have a new clutch fitted they can adjust the biting point. Hope that makes sense. You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. However there are some pretty distinct and exact checks in the FSM re the pedal and freeplay and point of initial engagement to check. A low biting point is an indicator of a new clutch.....or dodgy hydraulics. Though it may adjust enough to get it in the range you need while fully engaging and fully disengaging the clutch. Thanks for taking the time and effort to post this "how to".... Nice job ? Done this a while back on mine after Stoney suggested it, to improve high RPM shifts - worked perfectly! My wife's Citroen C1 has a clutch biting point almost at the top of the pedal travel, making it hard work to drive at low speed. Nah wasn't a honda garage, the guy was a plank thinking he could tell any old pooh. Normally it means the clutch is worn and will need replacement in the near future. I got myself under the dash in the footwell and noticed the clutch master cylinder has a little plastic arm that protrudes can connects to a lug on the clutch metal. As I just bought a pre fl swift sport I realise that the clutch is not running by cable and by hydraulic system and could I know how to adjust. Normally it means the clutch is worn and will need replacement in the near future. Take the car to a flat, level surface such as a parking lot such that the car does not roll away when in neutral with brakes disengaged. If you aren’t comfortable with the point at which your clutch engages, you can easily adjust it … I got round it by screwing the bolt you undid up to the top and using that to turn the shaft. Now the guy I spoke to was the head repairs, I also told him it was hard to change gears when in vtec, his reply was you can't change gears in vtec and you can't adjust the bitting point. Yes, this makes quick shifts nice and easy, but it just never feels 'right' getting off the line. With a high biting point; the biting point is much closer to the end point of a fully released clutch pedal and is a good indicator of a worn-out clutch that needs replacing. Clutch BITING POINT MEANING. How far i can go with adjusting to be safe..? Don’t think bite point position relates to how borked the clutch is. if the clutch is slipping the revs will pick up quickly and you won't go any faster! How do I adjust it so the bite point is somewhere sensible? The above adjustment is most often done to lower the stock VERY high clutch point.. Page 1 of 2 - Clutch biting point issue? To adjust, loosen the locknut and screw the adjuster nut as appropriate. When he said you can't change gears in vtec I should went asked to speak to a proper mechanic. No mention is made of clutch adjustment in the Haynes manual Thanks Jon There is a locking bolt holding the piston in position. Not sure if it's me or just a placibo but car feels nice and smooth not had chance to take on the motorway and see if changing to 5th and 6th are any better. The clutch biting point is a technique of clutch control to provide driver with greater control of the car, often necessary to make hill starts. Or could it be something else? any ideas? … Anybody else own one of these just got one As a first car for a family member and noticed after driving 2 that it has such a high bite point,and revs it’s tits of from launch is it Normal for one of these 60 plate 36k miles cheers Post Tweet Twist push rod in shown direction with long nose pliers to raise biting point from the floor. 1 full revolution for me was enough to raise the biting point from the floor to roughly 1/3 - 1/2 way up the pedal travel. You move away from the lever it will give u a lower bite point, SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal, Suzuki(s) Owned: Audi A6, Swift ZC21S (1.5M). Measure the distance between the clutch operating lever and a point of reference such as the edge of the clutch housing. Adjusting The Clutch Bite-Point DISCLAIMER: Toyota Owners Club is an independent Toyota forum for owners of Toyota vehicles. While holding the clutch pedal, select first gear. How do you adjust the engagement point of the clutch? Is it possible to adjust this? Login with username, password and session length. My previous mx5 mk2 had, for me, perfect clutch operation, the biting point was about 40% from the top of the pedal travel. Re: How adjust clutch biting point « Reply #2 on: July 23, 2014, 11:26:48 PM » It can be adjusted by shifting the piston forward or backwards from the clutch lever. I will add that due to access you can only turn the push rod a fraction at a time so its critical to mark it first so you know its moved. I have loosened the lock nut holding the push rod but the pushrod cannot be twisted at all even using alot of force with appropriate pliers. Basically all you have to do is completely remove the clutch lever (8mm nut and pivot bolt). My 2017 Mazda6 withe Skyativ-G 2.5 and Skyactiv-MT does not. Arial Hi, This is my first forum discussion I have just purchased a Picanto 1 2013 for my daughter. 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The clutch pedal biting point is fairly close to the floor so I am thinking that it probably needs adjusting but I can't quite see how this can be done. Excellent tip, adjusted mine 3/4 of a turn, bite point now a couple of inches from floor & its also cured a bit of 'notchyness' when changing down into 2nd. 1. It will just lower the pedal, it should be a little lower than the brake pedal. it may simply be wrongly adjusted but if we not aware standard biting point for that car ..as a normal datum point it may be ok. on the whole if its high ..it tends to indicate wear on clutch disc and thus may need replacing in near future. This process enables you to memorise the biting point of the clutch. so, do you have one of … Hold a ruler parallel to the clutch cable and measure the travel of the operating lever. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, engine swaps, troubleshooting, wikis, VTEC, and more! By joining our community, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Since the friction material on the clutch plate will wear down over time, the hydraulic clutch will automatically adjust to compensate for this loss. Conversely, a low biting point means that the biting point is a lot closer to the end of a fully depressed clutch pedal and is a great indicator of an adjustment problem. Nodge68 Well-Known … Ideas on whether this would be similar doing this to the 2.2 ? There appears conflicting information. The clutch on my single cab was way out of adjustment and was biting a couple of inches from the floor, so I adjusted the clutch last night and set it to have about 3/4 inch of free play. by Anton2k3 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:58 pm I removed and inspected the old clutch a month ago, and decided it needed renewing, was almost down to rivets, so no clutch wasted here. As a simple explanation, if you imagine the clutch as two circular plates, one of the plates is … When the clutch is engaged (foot off the pedal), the springs in the clutch press these three parts together so that the engine and the transmission are connected and spinning at the same speed. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Will give this a go on the weekend!!! - posted in MX5 & General Car Chat: Im really not sure if I have a clutch issue or not. Loosen 12mm locking nut then release clutch. Anyway I am delighted to say that The Threaded Rod is the answer to adjusting the clutch lever bite point. I suspect it does NOT have a clutch freeplay adjustment. It has done 60,000 miles. the.porter 5. No mention is made of clutch adjustment in the Haynes manual Thanks Jon Content on civinfo.com is generated by its users. I have paid for the 2 years extended warranty but heard mixed reviews on it. 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